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Old Dec 31, 2007, 03:54 PM // 15:54   #1
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Default need minion master build for pve

pls help, need point spread, 2nd prof, and skills, thx

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Old Dec 31, 2007, 04:03 PM // 16:03   #2
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Here is what I generally use as a MM:

Animate Flesh Golem [e], Animate Shambling, Animate Fiend, Animate Bone Horror, Blood of Master, Verata's Sacrifice, Dark Bond, Resurrection Chant

16 Death, 13 Soul Reaping, 3 Healing
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Old Dec 31, 2007, 04:58 PM // 16:58   #3
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That'll work good enough.
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Old Dec 31, 2007, 05:00 PM // 17:00   #4
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Here is on I have tested and it works great for me.

Necro/Monk
I have 4 Radiant insignias with a Bloodstained insignia on my feet.
Headpiece with a +1 in Death and a superior Death magic rune for a total of +4
A minor rune of Soul Reaping
2 runes of attunement
1 Superior Vigor

I have moded a gold bone staff with an Adept Staff Head. An Aptitude not Attitude Inscription. A Wrapping "of Mastery"
Staff stats =
HSR 20%
Energy +10
Cold Damage 11-22(Death)
HCT Death Magic 20%
HCT Death Magic 20%
Death Magic +1 20%
(It's my Ghial's staff + Nightbringer hybrid staff)

My general build:
(12+4(runes) 16 Death Magic)(8+1(rune)9 Soul Reaping)(7 Blood Magic)(8 Healing Prayers)
[skill]malign intervention[/skill][skill]verata's gaze[/skill][skill]animate flesh golem[/skill][skill]animate bone horror[/skill][skill]animate shambling horror[/skill][skill]dark bond[/skill][skill]healing ring[/skill][skill]rebirth[/skill]

Template code: OANEQXxG24oHuCAtpwRVR4OlJA

This build only need 5 corpses to have full 10 minions. You may not like the samll amount of micro management with Malign Intervention and Verata's Gaze. But you will get use to it. You can certainly switch out some skills if you want. You can trade out Healing Ring for Blood of the Master, but I have found I only need to heal them in between battles. For when I am in battle I can replace minions easily. If you do change out Healing Ring you can transfer those points from Healing Prayers into Soul Reaping or Curses for Barbs, which would replace your Rebirth. Also sometimes you may want ranged minions and I would swap out Animate Bone Horror for Animate Bone Fiend. It's a pricey skill energywise though.

You can also modify the build for heros to:

(12+4(runes) 16 Death Magic)(8+1(rune)9 Soul Reaping)(7 Blood Magic)(8 Healing Prayers)
[skill]malign intervention[/skill][skill]verata's gaze[/skill][skill]jagged bones[/skill][skill]animate bone horror[/skill][skill]animate shambling horror[/skill][skill]dark bond[/skill][skill]healing ring[/skill][skill]rebirth[/skill]

Template code: OANEQXxG24oHuCL1pwRVR4OlJA

This build is cross chapters skillwise. So one may be limited on which skills one could bring.

You can always try out a build and modify it to what you like best. Don't limit yourself to what other people do becuase there may be a better solution that works for your play style better.
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Old Dec 31, 2007, 05:22 PM // 17:22   #5
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Heres mine, works perfectly:

Flesh golem
bone fiend
shambling horror
blood of the master
dark bond
signet of lost souls
heal area
rebirth
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Old Dec 31, 2007, 06:07 PM // 18:07   #6
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At the risk of being called a PvX wiki nub, the necro/derv version works out well since you more or less just spam BotM with minimal consquence and very little fear of dying in most areas unless you run into massive enchant hate. I forget what it's called on there though.
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Old Jan 01, 2008, 12:18 AM // 00:18   #7
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Originally Posted by Syntonic
At the risk of being called a PvX wiki nub, the necro/derv version works out well since you more or less just spam BotM with minimal consquence and very little fear of dying in most areas unless you run into massive enchant hate. I forget what it's called on there though.
Yes, Mystic Regen + aura of teh lich + wall of minions = win
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Old Jan 01, 2008, 12:19 AM // 00:19   #8
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Originally Posted by isisaset
My necro is my favorite, so I've played with numerous variants of MM build as well as others. Current skills are:

Blood of the Master
Flesh Golem
Animate Bone Fiend
Animate Shambling Horror
Animate Vampiric Horror
Signet of Lost Souls
Summon Mursaat (just for fun right now - usually healing circle or breeze lol)
Resurrect

Notes:
1 - Many don't like the vamps, but 1 or 2 can really help - I try not to have more than 2 or 3 at any time since they die more quickly than the others
2 - Taste of Pain has proven to be good as well (in place of Signet, if you don't care for that one) - Taste is a much bigger health boon, although no energy but I haven't noticed an energy management problem with my MM, given Soul Reaping, so... maybe not needed
3 - IF not running N/MO, I run N/Rt and use Explosive Growth (instead of Mursaat or what have you)
The fact that a player can run this bad a build for two years and still get through the game is a testament to the effectiveness of the general role, I guess.

Oh, and you use Explosive Growth at 0 Spawning? Neat.

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Old Jan 02, 2008, 11:34 AM // 11:34   #9
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Oh, and you use Explosive Growth at 0 Spawning? Neat.
el oh el.




btw, oou+vampiric horror for the win.
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Old Jan 07, 2008, 12:28 AM // 00:28   #10
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What about order of undeath?
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Old Jan 11, 2008, 10:08 PM // 22:08   #11
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[skill]animate bone horror[/skill][skill]animate bone fiend[/skill][skill]order of undeath[/skill][skill]mystic regeneration[/skill][skill]dark bond[/skill][masochism][skill]signet of lost souls[/skill][skill]resurrection signet[/skill]
I heard that bar was good???
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Old Jan 12, 2008, 12:18 AM // 00:18   #12
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I usually run 16 death, 13 SR, 3 protection.

Draw Condition, Infuse Condition, Animate Flesh Golem, Animate Bone Horror, Anomate Bone Fiend, Signet of the lost souls,Blood of the Master and Ebon Battle Standard of Wisdom. No rez for me, playing exclusivly with Hero. Work great, remove condition from an ally to you. If mass Condition, change golem for martyr and have fun :P

I'll only bring golem when I use my Draw Condition or I'll go Aotl+dark bond like most of the ppl.
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Old Jan 12, 2008, 02:55 AM // 02:55   #13
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[skill]animate bone horror[/skill][skill]animate bone fiend[/skill][skill]order of undeath[/skill][skill]mystic regeneration[/skill][skill]dark bond[/skill][masochism][skill]signet of lost souls[/skill][skill]resurrection signet[/skill]
I heard that bar was good???
Needs Vamp Horrors instead of Bone Horrors, but otherwise that seems fine.
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Old Jan 12, 2008, 07:11 PM // 19:11   #14
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Flesh Golems suck, stop using them already.

[skill]Jagged Bones[/skill] FTW
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Old Jan 13, 2008, 04:12 AM // 04:12   #15
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2 things:

1: This question has been asked a million times. Each time you answer it, the necro sticky becomes more useless.

2: When the OP hasn't even responded after a week, why keep posting builds?

This happens too much u_u
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Old Jan 16, 2008, 05:19 PM // 17:19   #16
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I run a meat sheild with some damage on mine

1. order of undeath / or golem to eat up some damage
2. vamp horrors
3. shambling
4. Bone horrors
5. dark bond
6 Heal area
7. Blood of the master
8. Res of some type dependin on area but usually sunspear sig

9. THis is kinda the optional thing cause I dont always bring dark bond or a res, some times i bring signet of lost souls cause its awesome.

Gives me a decent amount of options and works as a decent meat sheild taht can still do damage and OOU works aweome with vamps
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Old Jan 19, 2008, 05:13 AM // 05:13   #17
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Here's a build I use on my MM heroes:

[skill]jagged bones[/skill][skill]animate shambling horror[/skill][skill]animate bone minions[/skill][skill]death nova[/skill][skill]Putrid Bile[/skill][skill]signet of lost souls[/skill][skill]ancestors' rage[/skill][skill]death pact signet[/skill]

Death magic: 12 + 3 + 1
Soul reaping: 12 + 1
Channeling magic: 3

or

Death magic: 12 + 3 + 1
Soul reaping: 10 (I forget if it's 9 + 1 or 10 + 1 here)
Channeling magic: 8 (or 9 if there's enough points left)

If I'm putting more points into channeling magic, and I'm on a good team, I'll also add [skill]splinter weapon[/skill] instead of [skill]signet of lost souls[/skill] or [skill]death pact signet[/skill]
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Old Jan 30, 2008, 06:19 AM // 06:19   #18
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For the love of RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing god.
Each week 12 of these threads pop up.
Is it so damn hard to have a search through the forum first instead of immediately making another thread about the same topic.

stfu and be constructive either way. instead of stating the obvious which is dumber imo.


on topic, drop flesh golem, bring either order of undeath or jagged bones. but if your not much into mico managing. order of undeath/darkbond/mysticregen/masochism/and some minions is pretty much devastating.
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Old Jan 30, 2008, 04:12 PM // 16:12   #19
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he's right though..you don't even need to search...if you read the sticky, there's no reason to ask for a MM build, or a SS build for that matter..
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Old Feb 09, 2008, 02:27 PM // 14:27   #20
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The fact that a player can run this bad a build for two years and still get through the game is a testament to the effectiveness of the general role, I guess.
Oh, aren't you the nice one? It's worked for me

Oh, and oops, typo'd in first post - on Rt/N, used explosive growth since can't use sig of lost souls. And before anyone asks, no, that didn't last long... lack of soul reaping=ugh. I play around with my builds, swapping skills in and out with whimsy, it's what makes the game... fun.

Try civility sometimes - it might suit you and, given that you do know much about necros (not sarcasm, fact) - use your knowledge to guide, not deter players from 1) wanting to play and 2) wanting to post. I post because I want to help - my builds may not be the best or the usual or the accepted standard - I don't claim they are- I merely say "hey, this is working for me right now". So they change frequently - I've run the "accepted" mm builds and I've run the complete opposite - the game gets boring otherwise.

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